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Re: Mechanism's Custom Loads

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Custom Load functionality is devoted to situation when you should perform a co-simulation. That is to say if you have additional differential equation(s), and you want to integrate them together with the Mechanism ones using the same integrator. Such task often arises when you deal with Mechatronics having electrical/magnetic differential equation in addition to the Mechanism ones.

 

If you do not have additional differential equations, using Custom Loads is an overkill. If you additional load can be represented as a function of positions, velocities, accelerations and even other forces, you should simply use User Defined profile in Force Motors or Forces/Torques as needed. No matter how complex is this function, the functionality will process it as needed.


Re: Mechanism's Custom Loads

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Hi Jason,

you're right in talking about the right way to simulate a feedback loop, namely using amesim rather than Pro/mechanism.

But in another postBoris Kirzhner told that you could use alo an external software in bundle with proE/Creo.

 

If this is not possible, or if you want to use an external simulation software together with Creo mechanism simulation, you should use Custom Load. Custom Loads functionality allows you to bundle external simulation application with the mechanism simulation. Your code will be called at every step of the mechanism simulation thus allowing simultaneous integration of mechanism's equations of motion with hydraulics equations.


So I'm a little bit confused.

Which are the real possibilities of ProE/Creo Mechanism? (Custom Load)

 

And it would be nice to see a real example of the use of this "Costom Load" function. On the forum and on the net I've not found anything, a part the PTC Help which, however, it's not a real example and, in my opinion, it's not veri clear.

Re: A bug about reviewing the total load?

Import loads in Creo Simulate 3.0

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Hello.

 

I am facing a desperate situation right now.

We received from our customer a 3D model and an excel file containing a point cloud from their CFD analysis. The excel file is structured. There are the x-y-z-coordinates of each point and every point have also an information about the force that is applied in the particular point (also x-y-z-triplet).

With this information our aim is to make a FE-Analysis.

I managed to write a macro that exports the coordinates into an .pts file that Creo Parametric can handle. In the modeling environment I can see the points in 3D space.

 

But how can I import these information into Creo Simulate? I could import the point cloud and apply the forces manually to every point. But we have ~5000 points, that would be wasting of time.

My first idea was to use the excel macro to generate a file that Creo uses to read all the information about where the points are located and which load is applied. As far as i know Creo Simulate stores the "load information" in an .xml file inside the Analysis output folder. But in that file is no information about coordinates.

 

Is Creo Simulate even capable of "importing loads"? For me it seems to be a basic functionality that should be supported.

 

Thank you very much for any help you can give.

Re: Creo Simulate vs ANSYS Workbench contact analysis w. friction.

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Dear Mats,

developing a contact algorithm with linear elements is already difficult. In a conventional scheme even quadratic elements rarely converge, and special formulations are needed like that of ABAQUS: the so called 'improved’ formulation elements. For sure penalty tends to smooth everything ... See for example this: http://optimec.ca/news/tetrahedral-elements-available-abaqus-structural-analysis-use/

I have no Idea how PTC made high polynomial degree compatible with contact. Are the Creo Simulate shape-functions of the field really polynomial or are NURBS-diven (high continuity without polynomial instability, but quite challenging to be programmed)?

Regards

Andrea Calaon

Re: Import loads in Creo Simulate 3.0

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Unfortunately No. Even we are facing a similar issue of importing loads from a spread sheet output from Adams, but not possible.

See the below discussion.

 

Import Load values from XLS

Re: Import loads in Creo Simulate 3.0

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Hi all,

 

Today, Creo Simulate does not allow the automatic import of loads from an external file out of the box.  We have worked closely with one of our development partner, AMC Bridge (https://amcbridge.com/), who created a toolkit application that will allow import of loads in Creo Simulate.

 

For more information on this solution, please check our their product page - Auto-Loads™ for PTC® Creo® Simulate™ - AMC Bridge

 

It is a free download.....

 

Happy Holidays.

Mark

Re: A bug about reviewing the total load?

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There is still no fix about this bug in Creo4.0 Simulate, what a pity!


Re: A bug about reviewing the total load?

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My English is poor,sometimes it's hard for me to express the bug,so perhaps you or someone else can help me to file this report,ok?

Re: Folding or bending of steel full bar

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Hello  学 蒋

Thankyouforyourresponse.

Theblockagesonthe axisyoudoon"points"?

Youhaveusedthemethodofoptimizeddesignstudies?

Kind regards.

Denis

Re: Folding or bending of steel full bar

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"blockages " means constraint?

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I used the optimized design

The beam.prt.1 can be opened by creo 4.0


Re: Folding or bending of steel full bar

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Hello

Thank youforyourshipment.

Yes,blockingmeansforced.

I'monW732-bitpro,IdonotyetuseCreo4.0,sothatI

buyaPC64bitwithW10pro.

Kind regards.

Denis.

Re: Folding or bending of steel full bar

Beam theory usid in Simulate

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hi all,

 

I'm trying to figure out what beam theory is used in Simulate with beam elements.

Is it Timoshenko's theory is which a section can rotate or is it Eulers-Bernouillis theory in which a cross section is always considered to be perpendicular to the neutral viber?

Unfortunately i cannot trace it in the help-files (is the anwer very well hidden in there?) .

 

Thanks,

Peter

Creo Simulate 4.0 (What's new)?

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Happy new year!

 

Anyone have a link to any information regarding what's new/changed in Creo Simulate 4.0? 

 

Thanks,

Andy


Re: Creo Simulate 4.0 (What's new)?

Re: Creo Simulate 4.0 (What's new)?

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The help center link was very helpful.  Thank you for the prompt response

Re: Angle between shell normal and solid normal must be greater than 45 degrees

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Garry, I know this is WAY late, but the only thought I have is that it could be due to the same reason of the May 15 comment here: Re: How to fix degenerate boundary faces in Simulate, where Creo just doesn't like shallow angles.

 

I have had this before where standard shells and shell idealizations intersect solid parts, but not with weldmelts.

Re: Beam theory usid in Simulate

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It's Timoshenko. You can verify this by creating a short beam and doing a comparison analysis between one with a Poisson's Ratio of 0.3 and another with -0.999 (the latter will behave like an Eulers-Bernouillis beam).

Re: Folding or bending of steel full bar

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Yes, Denis, it is possible to analyze this, but you will have to use solid elements with material plasticity, and also large deformation analysis + contact analysis. If you want to model the plastic collapse, you cannot model the load using a "load", instead, you will need to model the load using an enforced displacement.

 

The nonlinear solver is sensitive to mesh, I advise to use brick/wedge elements to model the beam.

 

Here are a few pictures from a plastic collapse analysis I did a few years ago. I recall that I also had an animation, but I can't seem to find it. Unfortunately I can't run Creo where I sit now, so I can't re-create these results.

 

In this case I have no contacts, but the load is axial, and what you see here is post-critical behavior, if you enforce a vertical displecement, along the edge of the beam end.

 

/Mats L/

plastic_collapse2.JPG

 

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